6x9 coax vs 6.5 component Front speakers

Hi all,

First time poster.

This is probably an old question / debate but I think I just need a little convincing. I'm looking at an audio upgrade for my Tacoma. Right now I'm considering adding a Pioneer avic-6000nex head unit, a Pioneer GM-D8604 amp, and new Hertz Hi-Energy speakers. (no subs) Why no subs? I don't have room for them, I need the space for tools and such.

Do I go with 6x9 coax in Front or 6.5 components? Online literature seems to say that 6.5s would give me better SQ and stage while the 6x9 are better for bass (especially when there's no sub). My dilemma is as follows: I want both! I'm want good quality audio and I'm a sucker for good bass. I guess the ideal setup would be to have a 6x9 component (w/ separate tweeter) but Hertz does not offer that, it's either a 3-way 6x9 or a component 6.5.

So I need a little convincing. Would the 6.5 provide enough bass? Or would the Hertz Hi-Energy 6x9 provide enough SQ? I wish I could just try both setups but that's pretty much impossible at my location. I'll have to order everything online and take a leap of faith on reviews and such.

Why Hertz? I've read some good things about them and I can get a good deals on them. Also, I'm gonna be running some 6.5 coax for the read doors.

Anyways, any help / guidance is VERY welcome.

Thanks,

 

6x9's. I'm doing a similar install (no sub) on an accesscab and opted for 6x9's as they WILL have more bass response. Round speakers are theoretically supposed to have more accurate SQ but without a sub i would definitely do 6x9's and then also use some deadening in the doors. I'm running dynamat extreme on the inside of the door skin and then 6x9 infinity reference powered by a jx360/2. I think your proposal of 6x9 in the front ( definitely run sound deadener) and 6.5 in rear will sound killer

 

Really depends on what you want. Do you want more bass or better SQ? go 6x9 for better bass respond and 6.5 comps for better SQ. There are a few companies that make a 6x9 component set. May want to look into those.

I recently installed some DLS UPi 6.5 comps in my 4th gen runner running 75w RMS to them. They sound what I think is ridiculously clean. They get decent bass but nothing that supplements a sub. Low end definitely picked up when I installed the sub in the stock cargo location.

 

I have 6x9s in my front..subs in the rear, no rear speakers factory as I have a single cab.

I bought the 1" tweet and crossover from Rockford Fosgate and added that as well, sounds fantastic.

 

I never considered this option. Thanks for that. I guess I can just try the 6x9s and then add tweeters if I'm not satisfied.

Thanks for that.

 

Does anyone if I could fit the Hertz HCX 690 in a Tacoma front door? The mounting depth appear to be 86.5 mm (3.41 inches).

Thanks,

 

Oval's get a bad rap because ovals are usually found in low-end speakers. They aren't crap because they are oval, they are crap because they are cheap. There are some high end speakers that use ovals (someone around here likes to post a link to some Polk's, I think). And I had some high end towers back in the '80s that had square bass and passive radiators.

The stock speakers aren't crap because they are ovals, they are crap because they have a tiny magnet and there are big gaping holes in your door, so your door does not dampen the cone movement. This leads to boomy and muddy sound coming from the drivers. I suspect, although I haven't tried this myself, that adding some sound vibration dampening material (i.e. Dynamat) and sealing the holes in the doors with Dynamat would improve the sound of even the stock speakers. That flexible piece of plastic that covers the holes in the door (you'll see it when you remove the door panels) is pretty much invisible to the speaker and does nothing to dampen it's movement.

 

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2n...-wts-audio-equipment-hat-jl-audio-kicker.html

 

You are not going to get decent base from the doors no matter what since they can't be sealed properly, the space is too large, and most fixes are just bandaids. Given that, go with whichever one you think fits you best. You are not going to get that much bass difference in a 6.5 round and a 6x9. Bass is nothing more then moving air. Do the math in the cone size of 6.5 and 6x9, then take into account that the doors are not going to allow a good sealed enclosure, then you'll understand that the difference between the two, for bass response, is minimal at best.