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6" body lift suspension upgrade (need help!

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Thommytaco, May 13, 2020.

  1. May 13, 2020 at 9:07 PM
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    Thommytaco

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    Hey guys. So I purchased a truck with a 6" lift block above the front coilovers and a 3" lift block above the leaf spring.
    I've got additional 300lbs of weight up front (bumper/winch). The rear has four leaf springs which seems to be stock so I believe I do not have additional lift w / leaf pack.

    I've been looking into Fox 2.0 Performance coilovers and Fox 2.0 Performance rear shock w/ resevoir.

    What has me puzzled.... My current rear shock is 29" extended. Fox 2.0 rear shock is advertised for a 2-3" rear lift, however, it's fully extended length is 24". Thats 5" shorter than my current shock..

    I am not sure why I have such a long shock.. maybe previous owner just added a random long shock that he lad laying around?

    I fear that by buying a shorter shock, I will lose down travel.

    I am going to do a flex test to see if I actually utilize all of the rear shock..

    Anyone on the forums know someone that has a suspension set up on a drop bracket lift?

    I'm sure there is a thread taking all about this, I could just not find it and if someone could re direct me to that link that would be great.

    Thanks for the help guys. And happy trails.

    Cheers, ThomasIMG_20200508_201144.jpg
     
  2. May 14, 2020 at 7:37 AM
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    Looks like you have a 6” kit. Most of those kits use a 3” block in the rear with a 2” aal. So 6” of lift in the front and 5” in the rear so the truck is level.
     
  3. May 14, 2020 at 11:44 AM
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    2.0 R/R rear will work well, you may be limited on options for the front with that drop bracket kit. I'm also curious on how you are measuring the rear shocks. Did you remove the shock to get the length? Feel free to shoot is a message and we can help get you the right shocks picked out.
     
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  4. May 14, 2020 at 5:22 PM
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    Hey! Was just on your website looking at kings..

    Yes, I removed the shock from the axle and compressed it and extended it by hand.

    For the front, I was planning on getting the fox 2.0 performance coilover. I was told that the spring it comes with isn't rated for the additional 300lbs (steel bumper & winch). But I was told that I can use the adjustment ring to preload the spring more, so that it can handle the weight and not sag.
     
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    These pictures were taken today with my truck on a rock pile and was able to get the rear fully flexed out.
     
  6. May 15, 2020 at 8:29 AM
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    Adding preload to compensate for excessive added weight is not the best fix. I would suggest using a 2.5 coilover up front either way, and then look into a heavier rate spring if needed. Fox makes coilover that fits in the front, and we could work with you to get the correct lengths in the rear.
     
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  7. Jun 3, 2020 at 6:09 AM
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    Good morning everyone. A little background. I purchase the truck not really knowing much about drop bracket lifts. After doing a ton of research on them, I realized that everybody does not like drop bracket lifts.
    Then I took the truck out trail riding with other tacomas with no bracket lifts that were lifted 3 in. I quickly realized how amazing the departure and approach angle was on my truck because of the drop bracket 6 inch lift, another great thing I realized, is that because of the drop racket my suspension a arms and upper control arms are perfectly level as on a bone stock Tacoma. This means that with the sway bar disconnected, I have as much droop as a stock Tacoma woould. in other words, while other tacomas have been on three wheels multiple times on off-camber Daria's and scratch their front bumpers and scratch their rear bumpers, I came out with no scratches to the front bumper or rear, and no wheels off the ground. the Lyft also helps tremendously during deep water crossings.

    I understand that I might get a ton of crap about what I just said of a spacer lift. But that's okay, everyone has their own opinions and experiences. My experience with a drop bracket lift is that I ended up liking it in the long run.

    Where I am at now, looking to upgrade shocks for better ride off-road. Did Fox 2.5 remote reservoir with DSC adjusters seems like too much shock for me at the moment. I am looking at the fox 2.0 with remote reservoir.

    I am just unable to find a fox 2.0 that is available with a heavier rate spring for the steel bumper steel skid plate and winch on the front end.

    also, I was looking at specs for a full length coilover for a 6 inch lift to eliminate the spacer, and looking at a stock length Tacoma shock. they both offered similar travel overall. Which leads me to believe that the 6in whole length coilover only has a spacer built into the shock versus more piston rod and More shot body available. I can only have as much down travel as my upper control arm let's meat. At the moment it is stock.

    I can also really appreciate the way my truck handles the slow off-camber Rocky descents or hill climbs. the group on the front end is great. And the flex on the rear solid axle is great as well. My question is why can I say, keep the six inch spacer up front and purchase a stock length coilover at a much less price and run it that way.

    Or option number two that I believe may work. Purchasing a 0-3 in lift coilover, purchasing a 3-inch lift spacer, lifting the 3-inch coil over to 3in and adding the 3in spacer block. That should get me to where I need to be as the truck sits now. I will decrease the overall length of my current spacer by 3in, and increase the overall length of the shock that I currently have by 3 in ches.

    Thoughts??
     
  8. Jun 3, 2020 at 8:30 AM
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    Although I can't offer advice or suggest using spacers on top of a coilover, but I can clear up this:

    "also, I was looking at specs for a full length coilover for a 6 inch lift to eliminate the spacer, and looking at a stock length Tacoma shock. they both offered similar travel overall. Which leads me to believe that the 6in whole length coilover only has a spacer built into the shock versus more piston rod and More shot body available. I can only have as much down travel as my upper control arm let's meat. At the moment it is stock."

    The 2.5 / 0-3" Lift Fox Coilovers
    Compressed length: 17.59" Extended Length: 22.48"

    Fox 2.5 / 4-6" Lift Coilovers
    Compressed length: 20.45" Extended Length: 26.25"

    The lengths are very different. The 4-6" Coilover would replace the existing coilover and spacer.
     

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