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5 lug inner tie rod to rack torque spec?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by ireymon, Dec 13, 2020.

  1. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:31 AM
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    I can't seem to find the torque spec for the inner tie rod to the rack. Is there one?

    99 5 lug

    Anyone have an any idea?
     
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    I've never torqued it, I usually use blue loctite and as tight as I can get with the tie rod tool or plumbers wrench.

    Edit 61 and 45ftlbs with the proper sst.
     
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    loctite and gudentite it is!

    Edit: thank you!
     
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    Why are there 2 numbers?
     
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    Aaah, gotcha! Still dont understand the 2 different torque numbers. Why would the sst have a different spec?

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    Maybe I'll average it, go somewhere in the middle. It wasnt super tight so 53 ft lbs sounds good to me?!
     
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    They reduce the number for the Toytoa SST which is direct, and the indirect torque is for an adapter.

    I would want tighter honestly, but I've never seen one loosen off.

    Locktite for sure, likely the old one had it. Domestics use locking tabs, toyota relies on the threads.
     
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    Thanks! These actually have the washer with the little locking tabs you have to bend to lock in place. These are the original TR and I didnt see any loctite on the threads, they were nice and clean. I dont plan on ever doing this again so I'm sure loctite is fine even if not required. Thanks for the help, I appreciate it!
     
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  9. Dec 13, 2020 at 10:04 AM
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    Also, moog sent a little tube of what google tells me is loctite so I'll stop yapping and get back to work now!

    Has Federal Mogul Part No. 40471 on the tube.

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  10. Dec 13, 2020 at 11:00 AM
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    The problem here is getting the lock nuts to break free.

    Never Seize is all I ever use.

    I don`t think using a Crows Foot would give you a good torque value.
     
  11. Dec 13, 2020 at 11:29 AM
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    It will if you keep the crowfoot at 90 degrees to the tool. If you keep it at 180 degrees (straight out), then you need to do the math. Although a crowfoot wrench is so short, that the torque value will not change much.

    It's all about leverage- If you use a long crowfoot wrench or torque adapter and it is straight out (180 degrees) from the torque wrench, the increased lever (torque adapter) increases the torque. Therefore, the value is greater than the indicated torque set on the wrench. So, in this case, the torque value will be lower.
     
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    Here is what I was talking about. When the crowfoot is at 90 degrees, the indicated torque on the wrench is correct. That's because the wrench is not longer, as it is with the crowfoot at 180 degrees.
     
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  14. Dec 13, 2020 at 1:44 PM
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    Moot point not like I have seen my Torque wrench it might be in the refrigerator
     
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