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4x4 Automatic Transmission Grinding in Park. Help needed??

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by mjhenks, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. Apr 13, 2019 at 1:03 PM
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    mjhenks

    mjhenks [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Situation.
    New to me A340F with 120K miles. 04 V6 Double Cab with manual J-shift Transfer case. (4x4 conversion)

    The problem:
    When shifting into park the transmission grinds.
    Sound coming from trans closer to rear of trans. Not transfer case.

    What i have tried.:
    - Adjusted neutral sensor to both extremes.
    - Adjusted shift linkage.
    - Disconnected shift link and manually shifted from below truck to eliminate shift linkage.
    No change.

    The details:
    - 4wd conversion. Used A340F trans w/ 120K. Had very clean fluid when i got the trans.
    - Trans from fellow TW member and reported to be good.
    - New trans fluid & filter. 6 qts. Just below cold line.
    - Valve body removed to check for cleanliness before installation.
    - 2wd & 4WD valve bodies same part # & visually the same.
    - Manual transfer case new to me. 1 qt fluid. Shifts cleanly.
    - All sensors and solenoid wires were transferred from my 2wd trans to 4wd unit.
    - Did not swap over solenoids or valve body.
    - All new seals on external shafts.
    - Engine rotates easy by hand and starts easy.
    - When first installed, torque converter not seated.
    - Found after trans bolts were tight.
    - Could not rotate engine to align bolts. Re-seated and everything went together fine.
    - When i shift into all gears and neutral all is fine.
    - Both drive shaft flanges rotate F & R in 4H, 4L and 4H and stop in Neutral.
    - When i go to park it grinds badly every time.
    - If i jam it into park it goes sometimes.
    - With the engine off it shifts and starts in park just fine.
    - Shifts out of park just fine.
    - Front and rear drive shafts are not connected yet to transfer case.
    - Speed sensor and all three shift sensors on transfer case not connected to anything yet

    Any ideas? I am now stuck and wondering if i have a bad trans or missed something.
     
  2. Apr 13, 2019 at 3:29 PM
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    tony2018

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    Check to make sure the transfer case is in neutral?
     
  3. Apr 13, 2019 at 3:32 PM
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  4. Apr 13, 2019 at 3:33 PM
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    nagorb Should be a dang perma mod

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    Thoughbi would say the issue is with the trans, should've gone with r150f.
     
  5. Apr 13, 2019 at 3:33 PM
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    Beretta4x4

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    Worn parking pawl in the transmission?
     
  6. Apr 13, 2019 at 3:56 PM
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    I've had this happen before too. accidentally shift 4wd into neutral with my leg. then when i start the truck next time it won't move obviously and when i put it bank in park while running it grinds. shut engine off, put 4wd in high and start again.

    i realize this might be a different issue obviously if you have drive and this happens every time.
     
  7. Apr 13, 2019 at 5:26 PM
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    Umm , you gotta put the rear driveshaft on :thumbsup:
     
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  8. Apr 13, 2019 at 5:27 PM
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    I do not think this is part of the transfer case. It does not matter what position the transfer case is in. 4L, 4H, N and 2L. Grinds when going into park.

    If it matters and i do not think it does i accidentally put Dextron 3 into the trans. I just flush through 12 quarts of Dextron 4 to clear it. No change.

    Anyways, i am wondering if the solenoids or valve pack could be part of this. I can shift through D, 2 & L but since there is no drive shaft hooked up there is no load on the trans.

    Please keep the ideas coming and i will also reach out to Bartman1234 and gearcruncher.
     
  9. Apr 13, 2019 at 5:35 PM
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    Yes sir . Your rear driveshaft is splined to the transfer case output shaft as well as the stationary rear differential .
    Without the rear driveshaft installed , there is nothing to hold the transfer case output shaft from turning .
    When you put your transmission into gear , the transmission output shaft starts turning very quickly and wont stop unless you turn the engine off .
     
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  10. Apr 13, 2019 at 5:37 PM
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    Thanks gearcruncher. Will get the drive shaft shortened Monday and move forward.
     
  11. Apr 13, 2019 at 5:43 PM
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    If you tried to throw it in park a few times and it growled at you , dont worry about it . Its just the parking pawl trying to catch one of the notches .
    Back in the old days , i use to throw transmissions into park at 50 MPH during a test drive to rattle the govenor .
    On the A340 series transmission , There is nothing inside there you can damage with no load on your transmission as long as you plan to connect the driveshaft soon :thumbsup:
     
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  12. Apr 13, 2019 at 5:45 PM
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    Whoever called this ^ guy is awesome....
     
  14. Dec 29, 2020 at 3:03 PM
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    Any update on this. Having the same exact issue as you. If I start the truck in park it’s fine but when I shift out park and back into park I get that grinding/growling noise. Only have front driveshaft connected as well
     
  15. Dec 29, 2020 at 3:11 PM
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    Update ?

    Turn the engine off before you put the transmission into park .You have to do it this way until you get the rear driveshaft back on the truck
     
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    For me it was the parking lock. Without the rear drive shaft there was nothing to stop the trans from spinning when I went into park. The grinding was the parking pawl trying to engage. Once the drive shaft was installed it went away.
     
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  17. Dec 29, 2020 at 4:12 PM
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    Thanks guys this helps a lot. I was already thinking i fried my trans:(
     
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