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4 Cyl Oil Capacity Service Info Changed in 2018?

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by Gus 524, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. Apr 15, 2019 at 9:48 AM
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    Gus 524

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    I know that the oil capacity of the 2.7 has been debated for some time now. I have always ran what my owners manuals says, 6.1 quarts (W/ filter change), and have been fine.

    I saw this info on Amsoil's website. They state 5.5 quarts W/ filter change. "This specification has been updated per the most current service information 5/15/2018"

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    Has anyone seen this "updated service information"? My dealership had not heard anything and are still recommending the 6.1 quarts W/ filter change.

    I found this interesting and was just curious to see what others thought and if this updated service info has been seen by anyone.
     
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  2. Apr 15, 2019 at 1:02 PM
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    Yes the owner's manual has needed updating for a very long time. I think the 6.1qt is correct for a new or rebuilt engine which is pooling no oil inside after an oil drain. But 0.6qt over full is not going to cause a problem which is why Toyota left it this way for so long. My 2.7 is a 2006 model and I've not seen the updated manual. I always needed 5.5qt to reach the full mark, with a new filter. Not sure if this is helpful but wanted to chime in.
     
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  3. Apr 15, 2019 at 2:35 PM
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    You'll get an answer between 5 - 6 quarts depending upon who you ask. Five quarts is what comes out whenever I do an oil change, so that's what I put back in.
     
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    Can confirm my brand new rebuild came with 6liters of oil inside, upon the first two oil changes 5.7L of oil went in and brought the level to full, new Toyota filter used. 2009 model
     
  5. Apr 25, 2019 at 3:18 PM
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    Thanks for the feedback guys. Interesting to hear your thoughts. I think I will continue to run the 6.1qt.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2019 at 4:53 PM
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    Run what it takes to hit full on the dipstick

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  7. Apr 28, 2019 at 9:43 AM
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    The dip stick is at the full mark when 5.5 quarts are added. 6.1 is above the full mark.
     
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  8. May 13, 2019 at 4:38 AM
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    Same here, 5qt total. Yesterday I experienced my first oil change on my 2012 Tacoma Access Cab 2.7L (2TR-FE) 4X4 5-speed manual (original owner). I'm tired of making appointments at Dealer and getting sub quality work. I dumped my oil & removed oil filter first to see approximately how much oil came out. A little over 5qt came out I know since I drained it into an empty 5qt jug and started another. Of course what ever oil the filter was holding also. I installed a new Toyota oil filter (90915-YZZG2) then added 4.5qt of new Mobil1 0W-20 oil then ran engine to operating temps then turned off and waited about 5 minutes or so as owner manual states. Checked dip stick and and I was between the dots of add to full. Added the other .5qt and went through same procedure before checking. Oil level is now at top mark (full). So, 5qt total.

    A little stumped since owners manual says 5.4qt (without filter) to 6.1qt (with filter). Maybe some old oil stays in engine even though I waited until draining was completely empty before installing drain plug? I'll check it again this morning before I leave the house and see if I'm a tad low. Will report back my findings.

    3 hours later: Warmed up engine then checked again. Still at full mark. Looks like my engine is a 5 qt fill. Next oil change I'll see if more than 5qt comes out again.
     
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  9. May 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM
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    I've always put in a 5.0 qt jug and been center between the marks every time, right where it should be. The top mark is NOT the full mark- it's the ANY MORE THAN THIS IS TOO MUCH mark. Any amount above the bottom mark is good, but below it is not enough. Like vaccination myths, this blows my mind when I hear someone that should know better practicing otherwise.
     
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    Yes, exactly. It's amazing how people agonize over keeping the oil level perfectly at the "no more" mark LOL. They must think the engine will starve for oil if it's anywhere below that. Every owner's manual I've ever seen says to maintain the oil level between the Add and Full marks, commonly called the "safe zone" or something similar. Dipsticks often are stamped "OK" in the area between Add and Full -- this is a pretty clear indicator of the range of acceptable oil level. If the level is at or below the Add mark, add a full quart. This is called "topping off." It doesn't get much simpler. There is no need to add 4 ounces of oil to keep the level perfectly right. Good grief.
     
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    My 2012 owner's manual shows a picture of a dipstick with the two (2) dots for the 2.7L 4-cylinder (2TR-FE) engine. The bottom dot shows LOW. The top dot shows FULL. And the owner's manual also states it's approximately 1.4qt of oil needed to raise the level between the low and full on the dipstick 2.7L (2TR-FE).

    But I agree going above the top FULL mark would be over filling. Anywhere in between the dots is acceptable.
     
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  12. May 16, 2019 at 7:53 AM
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    Point being anywhere in the range is ok, some guys get caught up in it being absolutely topped off and think if it’s not then something wrong.
     
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  13. May 20, 2019 at 1:53 AM
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    I recently changed my oil (2012 4 cyl.) for the second time since owing the truck. First time I did 6.1 QTS, was over full but that's what the manual said to put.
    Second time I did 5.5 QTS and it was right at the full mark.

    If you look close you can see a different capacity for 4WD and PreRunner, maybe they have a shallower pan? I just noticed that.
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  14. May 20, 2019 at 12:20 PM
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    I still don't understand why they gave the 4cyl a larger oil capacity than the V6.
     
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    Increased oil volume can be kept cooler.
     
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    I understand the idea and you're probably right, but is there really a significant difference in oil temperature when the capacity change is 1.3 quarts? I don't have an infrared thermometer but maybe someone on here is willing to do a little checking and testing for us :)
    And on the flipside, increased oil volume takes more time to reach full temperature (talking about just the oil, not the engine).
     
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  17. Jul 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM
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    I think a little extra oil never hurts as long as the engine can safely take the extra capacity. I'm sure if you're towing you can appreciate a little extra oil cooling ability.
     
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  18. Jul 16, 2019 at 8:01 AM
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    Definitely yes, I have always said that any severe service (hauling, towing, wheeling, etc) it's best to keep the oil level at or near the full mark. For DD service or normal use, oil level anywhere in the "safe zone" is fine.
     
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    It was designed to be an industrial engine and worked hard. That's why the 4's last so long. Most who buy them use them as DD's. More oil means fewer oil changes and less heat. The 2.7 can be run at 4000 rpm all day long. It isn't for most of us and therefore, it's longevity.
     
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    Changed the oil last night on my 2012 Tacoma 2.7L 4 cylinder (2TR-FE) using Mobil 1 0W-20 Extended Performance Oil & Toyota 90915-YZZD1 oil filter. Used exactly a 5qt jug that brought my oil level to the full mark on dipstick. Going to run 10,000 miles on this change instead of the usual 5,000. Vehicle has 90,000 miles. Sending oil analysis to Blackstone Laboratories for grins and giggles.
     
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