2017 Paint Issues

Hello All,
In the span of 1 month my paint has gone from no issues to huge issues and I wanted to see if anyone else had the same issues. you can see its forming on the roof and the hood near the windshield. I have washed and waxed regularly but all of a sudden I have cloudy spots. I am shocked as this is a 2017 Tacoma with 60k. Let me know what you think as I was going to clay bar it and wax again.

2017 Tacoma Limited 4x4

 

wow, that's an awfully quick change! To me, it looks more like maybe you didn't notice 'til now. I am guessing the body/paint warranty is expired?
I have only read problems most of white chipping, some of the metallic blue and red fading.

 

Where are you located? You are wasting your time with clay bar and wax. That is clear coat failure. Only way to fix is to repaint. You mentioned waxed regularly, how often is regularly?

 

It looks like clear-coat failure possibly. Polish or even light compound. Clay bar only removes contamination.

 

Here is another thread discussing the paint issue you are having.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/is-that-bad-mgm-paint-faded-2018.693358/

 

Not sure if this helps, but my 07 had this same issue. It was garaged for the first ten years of its life, but then it was evicted from the garage and had to sleep outside. Coincidently, the paint on the roof started fading a year or two after the eviction. Rust eventually set it. Paint on all other areas is great and unaffected. I just had it repainted this year to avoid further oxidation and rust formation.

I think the issue for me was the sun. I’ve since invested in a car cover.

 

I have a 2017 as well in silver and just noticed the same issue just in front of the sunroof and maybe a bit behind it as well now. I blame it on the extremely thin clearcoat. It seems to be getting worse faster now that it has become more noticeable.

 

I just bought a 2023 and would be interested in what wax you used and how frequently you used it. Everyone that labors on the wax sponge is hoping to avoid this from happening. It would be nice to hear what did NOT work.

 

Nothing you can put on it will prevent that type of damage, with the exception of a wrap. No wax, no ceramic, no nothing.

 

I have to disagree. My 2011 has held up well living outside 24/7. Been pretty meticulous about keeping paint protected.

Forget wax. Find a quality sealant or ceramic coating. Wax needs constant application.

 

I have painted several hundred vehicles. That damage is from a heavy solvent top coat to break up shadows in the metallic, done by dealer probably. Please know your topic before commenting.
The damage is caused by the excessive outgassing of the base coat. Not a damn thing you can do about it except wrap or repaint.

 

good for you.

 

Northern California and my truck has been outside since late last year. The back cover dried up and the paint is getting cloudier every day. I’m very disappointed in Toyota and this is going to affect my future purchases.

 

Let it go. Clay and wax will just be a waste of your time and money

save up for a paint job and live with it

 

My clear coat failed on the roof and hood first, and I painted them black, it looked good for a while but years later, the rest of the trucks clear is failing

 

Back cover...bed cover?

 

Yeah, my bad.

 

Actually it is caused by the resins/polymers breaking down in the paint, aka oxidation. Think of it as rust, everything wants to become its base element over time. The glue holding the plastic together lost it's bond.

These failures are caused by lack of film build "thickness of the paint" improperly adjusted atomizing nozzles at the factory, and the lack of the appropriate amount of UV inhibitors in the clear. The striping you see is where the paint was applied thicker and thinner. The technician at the factory was not doing his job, same with the QC department.

Proper paint care, such as removal of any oxidation when first seen will help. And obviously a good paint sealant or ceramic coating will also help when applied properly. However with the failures I've seen in this thread and the other one, it would only buy you some time. The clear coat will inevitably fail if not applied correctly or with the proper additives in the paint.

This should be considered for a class action lawsuit, halfway decent automotive paint should last about eight years with little care. With one exception. If you live in an industrial area with a lot of industrial fallout, acid rain Etc. There have been class action lawsuits against certain local industrial plants, Coal Fire power plants and so forth. So that is another option.

Certain colors will always fade quicker than others. Silver, gold and gray paints are most susceptible to complete failure, as they lack pigment. White tends to have a similar faith, but white reflects light and heat better. Black obviously does not reflect Light/UV and heat bakes it.

Today manufacturers skimp on paint, for economic purposes, EPA regulations and weight savings "believe it or not". Today's paints are far superior in general, and is how they can last as long as they do while having such thin builds. If paint was applied as thin as they are now with the technology we had back in the 70's 80's and 90's, the paint wouldn't last a year.

 

Actual wax such as carnauba or montan, will be gone within a day in hot sun, and a weak or so in ideal conditions. Sealants "with proper care" can last a year sometimes a little longer. Ceramic coatings can last 3+ years "if properly cared for".

Proper paint care isn't simple washing and slapping on a wax/coating. If the the surface isn't prepared correctly, it's like painting over metal that's covered in oil.

Automatic car washes with the brushes are obviously a no-go period, the brushes are full of everyone else's dirt and also the detergents they use are extremely harsh and scratch like crazy and will strip any coating off your vehicle rather quickly. Touchless car washes, while they may not necessarily scratch your vehicle, they use extraordinarily strong detergents. Why are the detergents so strong? That's the only way to remove dirt without physical contact with the surface. Because of this, they in fact do more harm than good.

Looking at a some of the pictures in this thread and the other one, it's clear the clearcoat is defective. However in a couple pictures you can see heavily weathered and faded trim pieces as well, this indicates negligent and or the use of harsh detergents. If the trim pieces were not cared for neither was the finish. That said even with total neglect a vehicle's finish should last at least a minimum of 7-8 years in direct sunlight everyday. After that we need to be realistic no coating lasts forever.

 

Other Tacoma owner's, let me know if you hear of any type of class action suite. I have a 2018 TRD Sport, blazing blue, that the cab is turning white in patches. It's very defined area's, so obviously a manufacturer error or defect.