1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

2012 Front pads/rotors (pics) change now?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by wags, Aug 26, 2020.

  1. Aug 26, 2020 at 1:40 PM
    #1
    wags

    wags [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Member:
    #63349
    Messages:
    269
    Gender:
    Male
    Walleye Capital of the World, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2012 2.7L 5-Speed Manual SR5 4x4
    Original owner of a 2012 Tacoma 2.7L 4x4 5-speed MT SR5 with 98,350 mi. on the clock. I do 95% of all my maintenance and have been thinking about original front brake replacement. Current pads are between 3-4 mm (.118 - .157). Owner's manual said change @ .039 (1 mm). I read somewhere best to change pads @ 3 mm. Rotors are pretty rusted up as pictures show since I live in snow/rust belt along Lake Erie. If I choose Toyota OEM I'm looking at a little under $250 which is reasonable to me. Would you wait and let them whittle down a little more or change now? Currently no vibration, noise or pulling. Great brakes since get go. Thanks!

    LEFT SIDE:
    [​IMG]
    RIGHT SIDE:
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2020
  2. Aug 26, 2020 at 2:01 PM
    #2
    muddog321

    muddog321 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2009
    Member:
    #27973
    Messages:
    1,136
    Gender:
    Male
    FL
    Vehicle:
    09 Tacoma DCSB 4wd TRD Off-Road w/e-locker Pyrite Mica
    TW 1-piece driveshaft with 1310 u-joints All Pro and Budbuilt skid plates OME Dakar rear springs 3" with 5100 5100 front set at 1.75" (3rd groove up) with stock springs Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 265/70R16 2018 TRD Offroad wheels 16x7J with +25mm offset Powerstop rotors with Z36 pads and rebuilt with OEM caliper kit Complete rebuilt rear brakes drums, shoes, springs, wheel cylinders Rebuilt rear diff with Yukon 3.73 ring/pinion Denso 130A rebuilt alternator AGM 24F Battery New OEM idlers and tensioner assembly New AC compressor New PS hose and flushed Walker SS Quiet Flow muffler Denso Iridium long life plugs #3421 (SK20HR11) OEM coolant, cap, and thermostat NAPA CV axles and new seals ECGS bushing Rhino front guard Shortened mud flaps Alziria Black Tail Lights Nilight Headlights X-Bull Traction Boards Maaco full single stage paint job 2023 Nat CV to Knuckle seals 710573 New SKF wheel bearings/hubs BR930978 New Moog stabilizer links K80946 & 948 New MOOG K80819 Suspension Stabilizer Bar Bushing 28mm New Dorman rear wheel bearings using complete axles 926-139 & 140 New Radiator support bushings Dorman 924-267 (front body mounts)
    Replace everything your calipers are a mess and guess rotors too. Look at those slide pins.
    Surprised the pistons even retract. Lots of posts on best setups. Pull it all and replace.
    Shoot the brake lines with penetrating oil a few times and make sure you have brake wrenches or you will strip them.
    Don't push your luck!
     
  3. Aug 26, 2020 at 2:03 PM
    #3
    EdgemanVA

    EdgemanVA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2013
    Member:
    #116820
    Messages:
    1,239
    Gender:
    Male
    Virginia Beach
    Vehicle:
    2008 X-Runner
    Several
    Wow! Personally I would replace the calipers, rotors and pads.

    My 2008 TSX had "rusty" calipers that were starting to malfunction, so I replace everything front and back. They looked 100% better than those...lol

    upload_2020-8-26_16-58-56.jpg

    The new ones look much better. And without all of the hardware rusted, I can actually work on these:upload_2020-8-26_16-59-34.jpg

    The rear before:
    upload_2020-8-26_17-2-26.jpg

    Indicator of braking issue:


    And the final product:
     
  4. Aug 26, 2020 at 2:05 PM
    #4
    EdgemanVA

    EdgemanVA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2013
    Member:
    #116820
    Messages:
    1,239
    Gender:
    Male
    Virginia Beach
    Vehicle:
    2008 X-Runner
    Several
    Looks like the final product didn't make it the first time:

    upload_2020-8-26_17-4-41.jpg

    upload_2020-8-26_17-3-3.jpg
    upload_2020-8-26_17-3-29.jpg
     
    crackils and Island Cruiser like this.
  5. Aug 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM
    #5
    SANTOS562

    SANTOS562 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Member:
    #237711
    Messages:
    46
    Gender:
    Male
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    2008 Tacoma PreRunner Long Bed Double Cab
    3” Toytec front lift, 2” rear blocks, iridium plugs, fender turn signals, HID reverse lights, BFG T/A KO2 285/70/17, chrome oval solid nerf bars

    Dang dude!!! I would totally replace all that!

    I replaced calipers and rotors last year on my 2008 and it made a huge difference in stopping power. Looks like you live in a snowy area that salts the road. Maybe just keep up with that maintenance side of things.
     
    LoveableWerewolf likes this.
  6. Aug 27, 2020 at 8:00 AM
    #6
    wags

    wags [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Member:
    #63349
    Messages:
    269
    Gender:
    Male
    Walleye Capital of the World, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2012 2.7L 5-Speed Manual SR5 4x4
    Yes, looks ugly for sure. Welcome to the salt/rust belt. Originally intended to replace with Toyota OEM parts, but now going to roll the dice with aftermarket @ 1/2 the cost and decent reviews (Raybestos Element 3). If I get 4-6 years out of these new rotors, pads & calipers I guess then I did good. If they are loud, squeak, vibrate etc I'll leave honest feedback. Pictures once new parts arrive and installed.
     
  7. Aug 27, 2020 at 8:21 AM
    #7
    SANTOS562

    SANTOS562 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Member:
    #237711
    Messages:
    46
    Gender:
    Male
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    2008 Tacoma PreRunner Long Bed Double Cab
    3” Toytec front lift, 2” rear blocks, iridium plugs, fender turn signals, HID reverse lights, BFG T/A KO2 285/70/17, chrome oval solid nerf bars
    I tried going aftermarket and 2 months later went in to the dealer to purchase OEM rotors, calipers and brakes. It just doesn’t feel right when you brake.
    Advice: save yourself the money and get the good stuff from the get go (if you have the funds of course)
     
  8. Aug 27, 2020 at 12:01 PM
    #8
    wags

    wags [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Member:
    #63349
    Messages:
    269
    Gender:
    Male
    Walleye Capital of the World, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2012 2.7L 5-Speed Manual SR5 4x4
    This is the general consensus here about Tacoma brake products. I have to find out for myself I guess..... but I'm remaining positive.
     
  9. Aug 27, 2020 at 2:35 PM
    #9
    vtdog

    vtdog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2009
    Member:
    #15767
    Messages:
    661
    Gender:
    Male
    NH
    I'm in a similar situation myself. What should calipers/rotors/pads cost:
    1. To do it yourself
    2. Have a shop you trust (not dealer) do the job

    I have an idea as I have looked on Rock for reman parts, but don't know if that is the way to go. I never was happy beyond "they are ok" with OEM brakes, so looked at upgrades and was shocked at cost.
     
  10. Aug 27, 2020 at 2:54 PM
    #10
    12taco12

    12taco12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Member:
    #219836
    Messages:
    1,162
    Gender:
    Male
    rochester NY
    Vehicle:
    2012 TX Pro
    Billy 5100s OME 886 Billy remote resi 5125 rear General hd packs TImbren superbumps/flipkit Pelfrey steel full hoop front SOS bolt on sliders Baja squadron amber fogs Baja 20" bar Aux fuse panel and switches custom 10 sub box double din
    diy get powerstop or stop tech kit
     
    LoveableWerewolf likes this.
  11. Aug 27, 2020 at 3:05 PM
    #11
    topoutman

    topoutman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2013
    Member:
    #99440
    Messages:
    173
    Gender:
    Male
    Ellensburg, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 DCLB 4X4 TRD SPORT
    OMG those look bad(rust). If you’re thinking about it now, I would do it now. OEM for everything. Make sure you have the right tools and it’s a simple task. You will probably have to cut those slide pins out though.
     
  12. Aug 27, 2020 at 3:47 PM
    #12
    Armed in Utah

    Armed in Utah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2017
    Member:
    #231704
    Messages:
    2,466
    Gender:
    Male
    Utah's High Desert.......
    Vehicle:
    2003 Lexus LX 470
    jeez

    where the hell you been drivin' that Taco ?
     
  13. Aug 27, 2020 at 5:11 PM
    #13
    tamer

    tamer hamerworx.com

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Member:
    #8674
    Messages:
    847
    Gender:
    Male
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2015 TRD OR AC, MGM, 4x4, 6spd MT
    I would just recommend in the future you keep up with greasing the pins and back of the pads. Maybe every time you rotate the tires and especially just before winter.
     
    Anton338 likes this.
  14. Aug 27, 2020 at 5:20 PM
    #14
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,471
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    Meh. All these dudes in here freaking out over a little rust...


    Id just wire brush the caliper and see if the pistons retract smoothly like they should. If they do I see no point in pissing away the money to replace them with cheap remans, even if they come with shiny red paint on them. You can always pull them off and make them pretty with some time and a can of caliper paint. :notsure:

    As for rotors and pads, and I may catch some flak here, but Id run down to Oreillys and grab a set of Brakebest select rotors and ceramic pads. They are made by Bosch which is OEM for a lot of European cars out there. Also, the rotors have an anti-rust coating on them that you dont have to pay extra for.
     
    vssman, Hikerbox and JimIowa like this.
  15. Aug 28, 2020 at 1:17 AM
    #15
    wags

    wags [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Member:
    #63349
    Messages:
    269
    Gender:
    Male
    Walleye Capital of the World, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2012 2.7L 5-Speed Manual SR5 4x4
    Yes this rust is nothing new to rust belt/salt state owners. This truck has never been abused, serviced faithfully, no extreme off-roading etc. It's just harsh winters with freezing temps, lots of snow & SALT on roads. Can't wash it when it's under 32 degrees unless you want real problems. I'll follow up this evening possibly with pics once I take take everything off.
     
  16. Aug 28, 2020 at 5:20 AM
    #16
    TexasWhiteIce

    TexasWhiteIce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Member:
    #43160
    Messages:
    5,345
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2022 White DCLB SR5 - Blackout
    Dang..... that’s not what I consider “ a little” rust.

    and for it to be on a part that your life depends on to stop your vehicle too!!
     
  17. Aug 28, 2020 at 7:22 AM
    #17
    lynlan1819

    lynlan1819 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2016
    Member:
    #181268
    Messages:
    6,539
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tacoma
    Lifted
    Just replace everything with new Factory Toyota parts,and then take better care of maintaining them as far as the rust goes.
     
  18. Aug 28, 2020 at 8:21 AM
    #18
    D2.

    D2. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2016
    Member:
    #203759
    Messages:
    1,578
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dan
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2009 Tacoma - access cab 4x4 2TR-FE
    Cruise Control install. Intermittent wipers Hood lights Bed Lights Sliders 3" lift 886's on Billy 5100's Icon AAL 285/75 R16 Falken Wildpeak AT3W's
    got a stop tech kit for the wifes outback, just pads and rotors, but i'm really impressed with them a year later. Stop great!
    i'm debating going that route in the Taco when the time comes. I currently have some Napa Eclipse calipers, rotors, and pads now I would describe them as "fine"
     
  19. Aug 28, 2020 at 8:26 AM
    #19
    LoveableWerewolf

    LoveableWerewolf Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2019
    Member:
    #281708
    Messages:
    730
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    2014 5 lug, 1989 mighty max
    4 runner seats, storage cubbies
    I'd replace everything, but honestly looks normal for the age. Probably could get away with going a little longer if it still stops good. My thing is that I spend my money in tires and brakes and get good stuff. Big tires for winter and some highway tires for summer replace both sets every 2-3 years. And brakes every 3, I drive a lot.
    Powetstop has the best value from what I've seen, I love em. Rock Auto has a tacomaworld discount on everything.
     
  20. Aug 28, 2020 at 8:33 AM
    #20
    Hikerbox

    Hikerbox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2020
    Member:
    #320538
    Messages:
    331
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    2015 SR5 Access Cab
    All these people saying replace everything live in the south or the west. If you took that approach to everything on the truck you'd be buying a new vehicle every 5 years. Those calipers are perfectly functional I just feel bad for whoever has to bleed them next when the nipple shears right the hell off.

    I say run them another oil change and then change out the pads since they feel fine and you still have some pad left. Measure the rotors and check the rotor thickness against the manufacturers specs. The rust doesn't matter unless it causes cracking from inside the rotor.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top