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02 TRD - Increase Towing Capacity?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Truckman89, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. Aug 23, 2020 at 8:54 PM
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    Truckman89

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    I’m new to trucks and just picked up a 2002 TRD.
    I want to increase the towing capacity to 6000lbs. Is there a way to do this safely?
     
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    No, you cannot change that by any means. You can limit squat and make it more stable, but 5k is the limit. Thats it.

    Towing capacity takes springs, frames, brakes, axles, drive train, power train all into account. Adding airbags or springs just means it won't sag in the rear and allows for better control.
     
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    Is 6k the actual limit? I’ve read so far that it’s 5k for my engine. But I can safely go to 6k you’re saying?
     
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    No, read the sticker in your door jam. Don't trust the internet.
     
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    You need to be realistic.

    Those trucks are rated at 3500 lbs or 5000 depending on the engine and that is generous. Closer to 2000-3000 is more realistic. Those trucks were intended to pull a small utility trailer with a lawn mower, not much else and there is nothing you can do to change that other than trade for a more capable truck.

    Even the newer 2nd and 3rd gens which are rated at 6500 won't realistically handle 6000 lbs, about 4500 is more realistic on those. Over 50% of the 1/2 ton trucks on the road won't tow 6000 lbs.

    If you need to pull 6000 lbs you need a 1/2 ton truck and even then you'll need to choose carefully.
     
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    Put the Toyota cab and bed on a 3/4 Ton drive train of your choice .

    Buy another truck if your planning to drag 6000 pounds on a regular basis

    While the Tacoma could be upgraded you would have a one of a kind vehicle .Unless you have spare parts built during the build anything needed could be a week or longer.

    The cost could very easy be as much a New Tacoma 2020 unless the majority of the work can be done in house .
     
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    Theoretically, you "could" modify your truck enough to make it work. But just because you can doesn't mean you should. You're better off borrowing, buying or renting a full size truck. Use the right tool for the job.
     
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    I'd like to know more about why you can't go past 6000lbs/what exactly is limiting it, if anyone has the time to get into it.
    Is something going to break?
     
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    Safety would be my first and foremost answer. It's not just that the truck's power is best limited to 6,000lbs, it's that the frame, suspension, brakes, etc. all have limitations as well. I trust the factory recommendations were well thought out by the engineers, exceeding those wouldn't be a safe thing to do IMO.
     
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    Right, so like... what are those limits? I don't really see how the frame could really be a bottleneck. If it is, surely somebody would have made a reinforcing kit by now? Brakes, absolutely, but we can also upgrade to Tundra calipers and/or convert the rear drums. Suspension is really just narrowed down to leaf springs I would think... but even hitting the bumpstops isn't going to break anything... So what is the issue exactly?
     
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    I towed this load a few months ago, yard of gravel on a utility trailer in the 4-5k lb range. The 3.4l struggles near the towing capacity, braking is questionable even with the Tundra upgrade. It feels unsafe near the limit IMO, if I had to tow 5k regularly I'd be looking for a full size with a v8.

     
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    Legally, the limit is what's on the sticker, end of story.


    Technically, nobody here knows - they didn't design it. All of the things you listed have limits and only Toyota has those numbers. You can start upgrading however you see fit, but without the engineering specs from the manufacturer, you're guessing at best.
     
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    I wonder what effect a wider wheel base would have.
     
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    That's fine, I just hate it when everyone spouts generic explanations or hearsay without actually having the technical knowledge to back it up.
     
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    In theory nothing stopping you from dragging 10,000 pounds.

    Although in certain places Law Enforcement frowns on you being over weight .

    Which means big $$$$ fines maybe a impound fee of $100.00 plus a day

    Then the fact the more weight on the hitch the more comes off the front making steering real interesting

    I could start quoting numbers and formulas to much like work.
     
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    That's forums for you :laughing:


    That said, the frame is a known weak point and kits exist to reinforce them.

    Brakes can be upgraded. If you did the tundra upgrade up front, and replaced the rear axle with one from a tundra....maybe? You'd have to look at the master cylinder too.

    Power.... supercharger

    That still leaves the transmission and front suspension, which can only be upgraded in relatively minor ways. Heavier springs are available, but the ball joints are still weak.

    May as well get a bigger truck, it'll be cheaper.
     
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    The lack of torque is the bigger issue for me. I think you could get more breathing room with a 2uz or diesel swap and some trailer brakes. I feel like the wheelbase comes more into play with longer trailers like boats.
     
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    I am sure with some looking around you could find all the formulas you need to plug your own numbers in.

    Then get into the strength of materials see where the first structural failure might be

    Something to do when your bored
     
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    The newer tacomas have a 6k limit, not the first gens.

    The other thing that is usually MORE important is the max GVWR. This will often be your limiting factor. That 5k# is a MAX, and assumes you don't have any cargo in the truck. It's usually something like 8000#. So if your truck already weighs 4000, that's only 4000# you can tow, even if it's rated for a max of 5k towing capacity.

    None of that matters. You could swap in a Dodge 3500 frame and axles, and the towing capacity of the Tacoma would still be 5000#. It is a limit set by the factory and regulators.

    Also, about brakes; those also don't really matter. Any trailer of a decent size will have it's own brakes. The only time Tundra brakes would really do much is if you are overloading a trailer without brakes. I towed a ~2200 popup trailer (without brakes) many thousands of miles, and never felt the need for bigger brakes, at least in a time/cost vs. benefit sort of way.

    Now, you can always either
    1) exceed those legal limits, or
    2) allow the truck to more easily handle weights withIN the legal limits
    in several ways:

    There are several companies that make frame reinforcing plates, air bags, heavy duty leaf springs, power adders (supercharger, etc...)
     
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